Join Fishman and Liz as they discuss the number one rule in life – keep going.

What do coincidence, spirit, Star Trek, stress and neuroscience have to do with each other? We don’t either but we managed to get it all in in this soupy podcast.

Auditions, interviews and the art of human humiliation.

It’s the premiere podcast of Places in 5! where hosts Jonathan Fishman and Liz Esquirol muse on life, creativity, connection, dinosaur extinction and the big question “does anything really matter?”