James Schramko Podcast

James Schramko Podcast


1120 - Why Sales Feels Harder Now (and What to Do About It) with John Blake

May 08, 2025

01:47 - Exposure to hands-on experience shapes sales instincts that no textbook explanation of the sales process can teach.

03:13 - Surprising roles, like debt collection or retail, can teach lasting skills in sales discovery, persistence, communication, and human behavior.

05:44 - Sales roles that were once all-in-one are now split across the stages of a sale, from lead gen to close. This reflects today’s more complex buyer journeys.

08:38 - Today’s buyers are more informed and skeptical. They respond better to relationship selling built on listening, guidance, and long-term trust.

12:36 - Every lead is different. Some need logical steps through the sales process, while others respond to emotional insight.

14:49 - Lead generation is just the start. The real work begins when you convert those contacts into meaningful discovery conversations.

17:40 - People buy from those who make them feel heard, respected, and understood at every stage of the sales process.

20:40 - Simpler, more human messaging often outperforms clever campaigns. This is especially true when it supports true relationship selling.

24:06 - Some businesses claim 80 to 90 percent close rates. But it’s usually blind offers and cherry-picked leads behind the curtain.

25:49 - Even talented reps can fail without clear sales process steps, systems, or onboarding that sets them up to succeed.

32:07 - Intentional selling means understanding the sales discovery phase and meeting prospects with the right message at the right time.

34:43 - A strong follow-up process is what transforms initial interest into long-term loyalty.

37:48 - Showing up consistently, with clarity and care, often beats any single call or campaign in a well-run sales process.

45:44 - Strong sales copy works across platforms when it mimics real conversation. It’s key to every stage in relationship selling.

48:24 - Sales teams now include specialists. One starts the conversation, the other advances through the stages of a sale to close.

49:35 - Without a real lead generation system, salespeople become their own marketers. This blurs the line between pipeline building and selling.

53:23 - Great onboarding starts before day one. It begins with clear expectations, role alignment, and defined sales process steps that support performance.