Episode 151-For Your Health, No Guns For You
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Speaker 3, Evan Nappen, Speaker 2

Evan Nappen 00:00

Hi, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, you may have heard about the Governor of New Mexico, the Governor of New Mexico, better called Petty Tyrant decided to unilaterally issue a “Public Health Order”, I’m not kidding, banning the public carry of firearms in the city of Albuquerque, New Mexico. I don’t know, maybe she forgot that she’s in the West. I mean, you know, where there’s a tradition of this thing called carrying guns. Even though New Mexico is kind of a blue state, you know, kind of a Democrat state, they’re still a gun state. It’s still the West, and it’s still got the tradition of the Westerner, of individuals that want to protect themselves with firearms. It is part of the culture. And to think that this Governor would be such an idiot that she would unilaterally do this, is just shocking, and man did she ask for it. Her unilateral ban on carrying firearms in the city of Albuquerque caused just an explosion of opposition.

Evan Nappen 01:54

The opposition came in from everywhere. It came in from even fellow Democrats, even the Attorney General said he won’t enforce it. Everyone recognized that this was such an abuse, to try to just eliminate a Constitutional right by a decree by a Governor basing it on “public health”. This is like the COVID mentality on steroids. Just saying, oh, so what? It’s just the Constitution. What about your oath? Remember your oath to uphold that pesky thing called the Constitution? Well, she didn’t worry about that. She even said, I know. I know I did. But so what? No right is absolute, she says. No right is absolute. Well. So, do you think the 13th Amendment that abolished slavery is an absolute? What do you think? Think we can have some? I think “public health” calls for slavery to be reinstated – only for 30 days, but let’s just start enslaving people. I mean, no right is absolute. Right? I mean, come on. There are plenty of Constitutional rights that, in fact, are absolute.

Evan Nappen 03:23

Now, whether the Second Amendment is absolute or not, isn’t really the issue anyway. Because the Second Amendment had its parameters set under the Bruen decision. It’s had its parameters set based on a test of the Second Amendment. It has, in fact, been put in a category of law now where the level of which the burden in order to uphold any Government action regarding something that goes against our guarantee of our right to keep and bear arms. It has to be proven by the Government. The burden has to be met by the Government, showing text history and tradition that such laws existed at the time of the passage of the Second Amendment, or maybe in the 1860s after the Civil War with the 14th Page – 2 – of 9

Amendment. I’m talking about having to go way back. Laws just from the late 1800s don’t even count. Laws in the early 1900s, they don’t count. It has to be laws back at the time of the Second Amendment or its incorporation. They are going to have to show laws that were enacted at the time that were acceptable, that were fine, that were understood to be okay.

Evan Nappen 05:11

There were other laws after that. There have been anti-gun laws that are not acceptable and in fact have been subjected to abuse. Many of them are focused on being racial and prejudicial. Some of the earliest gun laws, for example, in New Jersey, going way back, banned blacks and Native Americans from having guns. You know, some of the states, including New Jersey, have had the balls, frankly, to argue that oh, well, the modern gun laws should be upheld, because we had horrible racist gun laws in the past. And that should justify them now. Well, can you even believe they would, with a straight face, make that argument? But today, they’re supposed to be all about getting rid of racism and beyond even. We’re talking about major, major reverse discrimination.

Evan Nappen 06:18

Oh, but when it comes to gun laws, that’s okay. We can base them on our past history of discriminating against blacks. That’s fine. That just shows they’re good gun laws because, hey, they discriminate against blacks, right? So, why not now? Sounds good, huh? Well, that’s what Jersey says. I don’t think so. Other gun laws, even in the West, there were attitudes about guns and about their impact. Petty tyrants even in the West would at times try to ban guns, ban the carrying of guns. We’re talking about the West here today in New Mexico. And lots of times that didn’t go really well. Mr. Producer, would you play one of my favorite clips from the movie “Unforgiven”?

Speaker 2 07:14

(Little Bill) Give me that pistol, Mister. (Munny) Huh? (Little Bill) I says give me over your pistol. (Munny) Well, I ain’t drunk. (Little Bill) Ordinance says you got to turn in your firearms to the county office, day or night. I guess you didn’t see the sign with the weather and all. (Munny) No. But I ain’t . . . I ain’t armed. (Little Bill) What about your friends upstairs? They got pistols? (Munny) I don’t know. No, I guess . . . . No. They ain’t armed either. (Little Bill) What’s your name? (Munny) William Hendershot. (Little Bill) Well, Mister William Hendershot, what if I was to say you was no good son of a bitch and a liar? And if I was to say that you shit in your pants because of a cowardly soul, I bet you’d show me that pistol right quick, wouldn’t you? You’d shoot me dead. Isn’t that so? (Munny) Maybe. Yeah, I guess. But the fact is I ain’t carrying no firearms. (Little Bill) Get up. Come on. What’s this for, snakes and such? (Munny) Yeah. (Little Bill) We don’t have any snakes in here, Mister Hendershot. (Munny) Well, it . . . . It ain’t loaded. Powder’s wet. (Little Bill) You see, Mister Beauchamp. This is the kind of trash . . . I was speaking of. You find this kind in all your saloons and all your prosperous communities. Wichita. Over in Cheyanne, Abilene. But you won’t find them in the town of Big Whiskey.

Evan Nappen 09:34

Ah, but you will find the same attitude apparently by the Governor in the city of Albuquerque. As you know, those kinds of gun laws never seem to go well and it’s not going very well for her. The judge has issued a Temporary Restraining Order on her fiat, her petty, tyrannical action that she’s taken. And in fact, you see calls now for her impeachment. There was a rally, a pretty significant rally, where people Page – 3 – of 9

defied and said they will not comply. They were open carrying in Albuquerque in protest of her actions. There was very little support. As a matter of fact, there were individuals there who specifically said that this only targets the good people, which is what it does, because the bad guys don’t pay any attention to this. Even the Governor knows it. This is the worst kind of knee-jerk stupidity when you’re stopping law- abiding citizens, so that it makes it easier for the criminals. I mean, come on. Instead, they jump on this emotion. They say, hey, let’s go after the symbol, the gun, go after the symbol, because it’s too hard to actually do something about crime. So, we’ll focus on the symbol, and we’ll make that intrinsically evil. Then that’s what we’ll ban. It doesn’t matter that the tool that defends law-abiding citizens, that defends children and adults alike, with those that are responsible, that know how to use it, and especially countering that culture of the West. That absolute defend and stand up for yourself, Western ethic. And this is what she does.

Evan Nappen 12:10

You know, one of the interesting things I was reading here. Very few supported at all what she did. As a matter of fact, what’s really funny is even some of the most anti-gun advocates out there, probably one of the worst, the worst of all the anti-gunners, at least in terms of just obnoxiousness no less, is David Hogg. You probably know David Hogg. The blood dancer out of Parkland. Right? You know, that guy. He’s made a career out of out of this. That anti-gun zealot even tweeted, after the Governor suspending a Constitutional right based on a “public health”. Listen to it. Now remember, this is David Hogg. Like, the anti-gun poster child. “I support gun safety but there is no such thing as a state public health emergency exception to the U.S. Constitution.” Even that guy gets it. In response to his tweet, this fellow Tony Kinnett, I think won the internet for the day with his comment. Here’s what he said in response to David Hogg. “Imagine screwing up gun control so badly that you lose David Hogg.” Yep, that’s about it. I mean, that is, let’s face it. This is so extreme to suspend a constitutional right in this manner. Then if any of you follow the Babylon Bee, they were hilarious on it. They said that the Governor then proceeded to suspend the First Amendment to stop any criticism of her suspension of the Second Amendment. And that’s essentially what happens. You start suspending Constitutional rights. Well, there’s no limit or end to it.

Evan Nappen 14:28

Now, she has backed down, apparently, just now recently, she’s rescinded the order because everyone and their mother was against it. Except by the way, except for the Catholic Church, I might add. No, the Catholic Church was in favor of this. I read that in the AP news story, that they liked it. So, if any of you find that interesting, there you go, consider that. But other than the Catholic Church, there are very few people that would support it. What’s even more interesting about the Catholic Church, by the way, is there is saint, Saint Gabriel Possenti, who is the patron saint of handgunners, by the way. So, there’s even a saint in that church, and I don’t think Saint Gabe there would support this Governor’s actions. So, maybe the church needs to take a look at things a little closer.

Evan Nappen 15:33

But anyway, this effort by the Governor shot down, she’s backed down, rescinded. Now she said, oh, no, she’s issued a new order where she’s only limiting it to public parks where there are kids. Well, even that is no good, of course. That’s just trying to save face. But she said, if they challenge that in court, she’s going to try to get the legislature to do so. Okay. Well, guess what? It’s going to be Page – 4 – of 9

challenged in court, just like the challenge you get in New Jersey in court and everywhere else. Because it’s a Constitutional right, lady, let’s get that through your head. Talking about an abuse of power. Oh, my God. So, yeah, that’s not going to save it. That’s not going to save her.

Evan Nappen 16:24

I guess the thing that really got most people on the left upset is that, unfortunately, this Governor revealed their ultimate plan too soon. That’s probably what it really boils down to, you know. How dare she do that? We didn’t want to do that just yet. We still have more gun registration and other mechanisms to put in place before we drop the hammer like that with executive tyranny. Come on, come on. We’re letting Biden do a lot of stuff now. But we still have to keep, you know, we have to do it incrementally and just take away the rights in a systematic way. You just can’t do this. She didn’t follow the playbook. She didn’t get the memo or something. But anyway, it now stands as a great example of you better not do this to any politician, especially when it gets done in a Democrat, Western State. And it just blows up like a nuke in her face, as well it should.

Evan Nappen 17:30

That brings me to talking about our gun rights, our gun rights, our fight for gun rights. In New Jersey, the number one fighter for our gun rights as a group is the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol clubs. Every one of you needs to be a member of the Association. It is the NRA affiliate in New Jersey. They’re on the front lines. The front lines of the legislature, fighting for our rights. As a matter of fact, I want to tell you that shortly I’m going to have some important news for you. Important news about the great fight that the Association is undertaking on the training requirements fiasco. We’ve talked about this on the show, and our Association is doing fantastic work there. Very shortly, I’m going to be able to tell you some news that I’m very excited about, but I can’t give any details yet. But it is coming shortly, and this is your Association at work. Day and night. I’m not kidding. Literally day and night. Working to defend our gun rights in the battlefield state of New Jersey. Join the Association. It’s anjrpc.org. Make sure you are a member. You’ll get email alerts. You’ll be informed, and you’ll know that you’re part of the solution. www.anjrpc.org

Speaker 3 19:23

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Speaker 3 20:37 Page – 5 – of 9

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Evan Nappen 20:53

Thank you for listening to the number one Gun Rights podcast in the world, and that’s according to Feedspot who rates podcasts around the world. They rated the top 20 podcasts and Gun Lawyer is number one. We’re number one because of you, and I appreciate it. It gives us a voice and a platform. The ability to get great information out so that you can protect yourself and not become a law-abiding criminal and know that you’re part of this fight. Fighting for our guarantee under the Second Amendment. Well, we all cherish our right to keep and bear arms. Now, you know, there’s been a lot of other interesting things in the news, not the least of which is more action by Biden. One of the things that he’s put forward, which is extremely serious, is through the executive branch and the administrative agencies. He’s trying to promulgate a rule through ATF under ATF’s rulemaking powers to change and define the definition of engaged in business as a dealer in firearms. This is really, really bad folks.

Evan Nappen 22:11

The RINOs have sold us out on the so-called Bi-Partisan Safer Communities Bill that they were warned about. We told them that this is gun control. Don’t do it. And these idiots, these idiot Republicans, joined with the Democrats. They were warned about this problem. And, of course, Biden touted it as a huge victory, which for him actually it was. They gave it to him on a silver platter headed by John Cornyn, a Republican from Texas, no less. He should be ashamed of himself. Amongst other things in this bill, removing from the definition of dealer which was hard fought and paid for dearly, in the enactment of the Firearm Owners Protection Act (FOPA) under Reagan, by the way, where we lost machine gun new production. Thank you. That was the trade off, you know. FOPA, that bill, purposely defined dealer because ATF was harassing individuals as being unlicensed dealers. They were coming down on folks trying to destroy law-abiding people that just wanted to do this as a hobby for fun, enjoyment, etc. What did we get in there then? Exactly what to be a dealer was – for livelihood. Livelihood, and profit.

Evan Nappen 23:39

Now these sellouts cut out “livelihood”. So, now it’s just about profit only. They’re trying to expand this so broadly that if you sell a gun for profit, you can be determined to be an unlicensed dealer and face the penalties. It’s outrageous and wrong. All under the guise of Universal Background Check (UBC), which we all know is Universal Gun Registration. That’s what it is. This is what they want because that’s how they get the lists so they can confiscate. That’s their end game. We’ve got to realize that. I mean, this is what the whole thing is about. This is what we’re fighting to stop. We can’t let them get footholds. We can’t let them get this. And even worse, turning law-abiding citizens into criminals, again, because you sell a gun and happen to make a profit. So, look, with this rulemaking issue here, there’s a period of time now where we can send in comments, and it’s important that you do. You need to send comments about this proposed rule, attacking it and making it clear why it’s a load of doggy doo. You need to explain how this affects law-abiding citizens. How this is wrong, how it is so overbroad and absurd. Go to the online portal at the regulations.gov. I’ll have the link on the Gun Lawyer website, so that you can reference this. It’s docket number ATF 2022R-17. That’s the rulemaking that you need to comment on. comment@regulations.gov. Let it be known, because sure, they’ll probably do whatever they want. They will probably still promulgate it. But, as long as we have lots and lots of folks putting in Page – 6 – of 9

opposition and comments, it helps with the guaranteed litigation that’s going to occur as soon as the rule gets enacted. Put in your comments, try to avoid being inflammatory or hyperbolic. Don’t use vulgar language. Don’t call it doggy doo, even though I did. Calmly explain why it’s bad. Why this is outrageous and why citizens shouldn’t be thrown into the category of dealers simply because they sell some guns now and then and actually end up making a profit.

Evan Nappen 26:25

Do you realize that ATF estimates that, this is ATF, by the way, estimating that this new rule is going to require anywhere from approximately 24,000 to 328,000 people to become FFLs. And I think that’s a low estimate. This is insane. They can’t even keep up with what they are supposed to be doing, no less this garbage. This is, of course, yet another Biden special. Man, if you need any reason to vote against this character, if he even makes it through the primary and gets to be the nominee, this guy is the worst president ever. When it comes to the Second Amendment, he is our enemy. He is the enemy of the Second Amendment. So, we have to stay vigilant, folks. Send in your comments. Make sure you do. We have got to stay on this and keep fighting until we get the cavalry in 2024. And you know who that’s going to be.

Evan Nappen 27:46

So, I have a letter here from Joseph. Joseph says, hello, I listen to all of your podcasts. They are all entertaining and informative and much appreciated. Well, thank you, Joseph, I appreciate that. Please continue the good work. My question is, as a New Jersey resident, if I were to travel out of state, for example, to a local store in Pennsylvania, would my ammunition purchase still need to be registered as per the recent New Jersey laws regarding the sale of ammunition? Thank you.

Evan Nappen 28:19

The answer to that is no. It does not. That is one of the better ways to not get on the ammo registration list. Simply buy your ammo out of state. Buy it at a gun show, or you can buy it at a dealer. They’re not subject to New Jersey’s insanity. As a New Jersey resident, you’re now in a different jurisdiction. You’re in the jurisdiction of Pennsylvania, and you’re only covered by federal law and Pennsylvania law. You can buy your ammunition, and you can bring it home. You can keep it at home, and it’s not a problem. Use it at the range. Use it as you buy any other ammo. Because this is incumbent on individual dealers that sell ammunition in New Jersey, not outside of New Jersey. It’s not a fact of selling to a Jersey resident. It’s a fact of where the ammunition is sold. If it is sold in New Jersey, then it must be registered. You’re going to have to pay the fee, and you get put on another lovely list. So, if you’d like to avoid that, sure, buy it out of state.

Evan Nappen 29:25

Now let me give you an important warning here about this, too. If you’re buying ammo in New Jersey, beware of the 2000 round trap. If you buy 2000 rounds or more of handgun ammunition at any one time, ammunition that can be used in a handgun, then the dealer is required to immediately report you to the State Police, required to. Then the State Police will investigate you. So, if you buy four bricks of .22s at the same time in New Jersey, you’re going to subject yourself to a State Police investigation. Beware of that. If you buy it out of state, there’s no such thing. The ammo registration rule also doesn’t apply to those that reload and components etc. It only applies to completed cartridges. There are other Page – 7 – of 9

loopholes and things you should be aware of as you want to maintain your privacy and your ownership of ammunition. So, thank you, Joseph, for that great question.

Evan Nappen 30:29

I have another one here. This is from Gary. Gary says hi Evan. I have a 1943 M1 Garand. I love the World War II Garands. They are sweet. As you may recall, (General George S.) Patton called it the best battle rifle ever devised. The M1 Garand is a wonderful gun, and as we’ve talked about before, you can buy them at a great deal from the CMP. That’s right. The Civilian Marksmanship Program has excellent deals on M1 Garands. Anyway, I continue. I have a 1943 M1 Garand. It has a bolt lug for a bayonet, and I also have the bayonet. I know they are illegal for modern rifles. Is there a certain date where you can own these in New Jersey with a bolt lug and a bayonet? In the same vein, I have a German World War Two dagger, and I know daggers are illegal in New Jersey. Is there any exemption for antiques and if so, what is the year that makes them an antique? Thanks, and as always, you’re the best resource for gun owners in New Jersey.

Evan Nappen 31:33

Well, thank you. And this actually was from Harvey. I’m sorry, I said Gary. My apologies to Gary. It’s from Harvey. So, let’s talk about M1 Garands. All right. What Harvey’s getting at here is essentially the confusion, mass confusion, about New Jersey’s assault firearm law. New Jersey banned all assault firearms, which is the pejorative term for modern sporting rifles. Yet it is a term embedded in our law now because they actually call them assault firearms as a matter of law. So, I’m going to refer to them as assault firearms because it’s actually the legal term when you go to N.J.S. 2C:39-1. So, what is an assault firearm? Assault firearm is extremely complicated. It is a five-part definition, one of the most poorly written definitions in all of criminal law. I’m not just saying that because I can’t stand the law’s effect.

Evan Nappen 32:42

The first part of the law is about 67 guns on a list, then any gun substantially identical to those. What the hell is substantially identical? Substantial means almost. Identical means exact. What do they mean almost exact? How are we even supposed to know what’s almost exactly. It’s like a little bit pregnant? It doesn’t make any sense. Yet here we are. So, in all the confusion and craziness, the Attorney General put out the 1996 guidelines where it outlined, based on the Federal 1994 assault weapon ban, features that make a gun an assault firearm. Even though New Jersey never passed that in 1990 when they passed the assault firearm ban, but nonetheless, that’s what guides us. Those so-called offending features include a bayonet lug, which Harvey’s referring to as a bolt lug, but it’s a bayonet lug or bayonet mount, some people would call it. It includes a telescoping stock, folding stock, pistol grip, flash suppressor, threaded muzzle, and of course, what every one of us has on every one of our semi-automatic rifles, grenade launchers. It includes grenade launchers. I was just planning on doing some grenade launching this weekend at the range. It would probably be a lot of fun. No, but the point is, those are the features that are offending features, but they have to be on a semi-automatic rifle that is magazine fed. And that’s the difference.

Evan Nappen 34:27 Page – 8 – of 9

The M1 Garand rifle is an on block clip, clip. Now I am a gun guy like you folks are gun people. When I say clip, I mean a frickin clip. A Garand uses a clip, not a magazine. AR-15 type guns, AK-type guns and all the other scary black rifles and tactical rifles that scare the hell out of every liberal there is, use magazines, detachable magazines, and that’s where the guidelines come in. But the very first feature is it has to be a semi-automatic rifle that uses a detachable magazine. The M1 Garands do not. So, a bayonet lug on a M1 Garand is legal. The M1 Garand rifle is not an assault firearm, an a M1 Grand bayonet is legal. You can put a M1 Garand bayonet on a M1 Garand, and it’s legal. It’s not prohibited. So much so, that as part of the 1990 assault firearm law, the Attorney General had to declare which guns were legitimate target shooting firearms, because only legitimate target shooting firearms would be allowed to be registered as assault firearms in New Jersey. Please tell me, if it’s a legitimate target shooting firearm, how is it an assault firearm and why does it need to be registered? But forget all the logic there.

Evan Nappen 36:09

In so promulgating that list back in 1990 of legitimate target shooting firearms, which included the AR-15, which included the M1 carbine, which included the semi-auto M14 type or M1A type, of which those guns you could register as assault firearms and keep them. But that went for one year only. Then the registration was no more for that passage of that law at that time. In that finding of what are legitimate target shooting firearms, the person who put that out at the State Police, we want to thank that person for doing it, also wrote as kind of an addendum, kind of an addition in that letter, and I have a copy of it. That says the M1 Garand rifle is not an assault firearm. So, the State Police officially said that the M1 Garand is not an assault firearm, in addition to the M1 Garand not meeting the criteria of substantially identical, because it does not use a detachable magazine, and it is not on the list of guns that are per se prohibited by name. So, Harvey, you’re good to go for a M1 Garand in New Jersey. Keep that bayonet mount right on there, proudly mount your bayonet on it, and you’re good to go.

Evan Nappen 37:58

Now as far as the second part of Harvey’s question, what about German World War Two daggers? Of course, German daggers are awesome pieces of history. They’re very collectible, very desirable, and they represent a victory. Think about this. What does that memorabilia from that period represent? It represents trophies, because the good guys won. And that’s why we have them. Because the good guys won. We did. We won. We beat the Nazis. We beat the Germans. So, a German dagger should not stand for Naziism, it should stand for our Victory over Nazism because it’s ours now. We have it. So, with losing our appreciation for history every day, forgetting what history means, forgetting what these trophies of war represent, there’s a lot of nonsense of the modern age applied. But Harvey’s question is, look, are daggers illegal in New Jersey? The thing is New Jersey does have a statute that prohibits daggers unless you have a manifest lawful purpose. If you have a lawful purpose, then you can have a dagger. You can even have a switchblade possession if you have lawful purpose.

Evan Nappen 39:29

Of course, the lawful purpose to have a German World War Two dagger is its incredible historic value. It is a war trophy that we Americans fought against the evil Nazis, and they sure as hell were. We won, and we have the spoils of war. This is an example of our victory and what we’re able to glean from the enemy. The enemy that we defeated, and it is a part of history. As they say, those that forget history Page – 9 – of 9

are doomed to repeat it. So, we’re not going to forget history. We don’t want to repeat it. We need to keep it in mind, so that we don’t repeat it. This is a classic example of that. So, it is technically legal to have a dagger, if you have that lawful purpose and can demonstrate it. You can’t sell it. Selling is a separate prohibition. But possession, there is that defense built into the statute.

Evan Nappen 40:52

So, one of the things I would strongly suggest, if you have such an item, is to put a tag on it. One of those kinds of shipping tags with a little string and write on it what it is, that it’s historic, put the maker, if you know, because the makers can be very important. Put whether it’s an SA dagger or an SS dagger, whatever it is, any of the collector key collector information about that dagger, write it up on that card, about the history and what makes it collectible. In that way, with that tag in your collection, your manifest lawful purpose, your purpose for having that legally, was as a historic relic, where you’ve appreciated and made clear the collector value to you, why you have it, and why generations from now, it needs to remain and be understood and appreciated for the victory that the Americans had over our enemy, the Nazis. This is Evan Nappen, reminding you that gun laws don’t protect honest citizens from criminals. They protect criminals from honest citizens.

Speaker 3 42:23

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