I wanted to share this virtual session I held with a patient recently where we discussed her post cataract surgery troubles, along with several other eye issues she has been experiencing. Enjoy the show.

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00:05

Hello, everyone, it’s Dr. Sam, I’d like to welcome you to my EyeClarity podcast. This is a show that offers cutting edge information on how to improve your vision and overall wellness through holistic methods. I so appreciate you spending part of your day with me. If you have questions, you can send them to hello@drsamberne.com.

00:45

Okay, so why don’t you update me on what your goals and objectives are? Julie, what you want to get out of our time today and go from there.

01:22

She says you were fantastic. So here, she gave me your information.

01:26

All right, good. All right. Yeah, see if I can deliver. So

01:30

it’s going on. I’m looking to build a space like here. So I’m taking inspiration. Okay, so as for my eyes. I used to have amazing Eagle Eye Vision, of course, like a lot of people. And as I started ageing, my my distant vision that used to be so acute, started to diminish. And then I was seeing an eye doctor at the time in Utah. And he suggested that I have cataract surgery, even though at the time I had 2015 vision. That’s really good vision. And so I you know, so I didn’t know I should have seen another doctor right. Now hindsight. So I had cataract surgery.

And it turned out that they put the wrong prescription lens in my eye. And it was living hell, it was like looking at a kaleidoscope. My brain couldn’t. Oh, it’s horrible. And I couldn’t see it all out of that body. So I went to another place and they took that lens out. And they put in a lens called a crystal lens. And I was really, really happy with it because it adjusts to your own iris and it will expand and contract. And then a couple days later, the doctor said okay, you can go back to your normal activities. And for me, my normal activities are pretty extreme. I’m a martial artist, and I went skiing and I just fell really, really hard, weird, a weird, weird, random fall. And I knocked the lens a little bit loose. And my vision in my left eye just has never been the same. So I lost the distant vision in that eye.

But I can see up close. Okay, so my other I have had nothing done to it. I’ve been really leery. I do have a cataract in that. And I was recently diagnosed with macular, the onset of macular so, you know, I don’t see well, obviously at night, I still have the halos around lights. And so I just, I just don’t drive at night. I do wear a contact in that I when I when I drive or when I’m out and about and it does help but it’s not perfect vision. And I do have glasses for distance if I want to watch TV or something like that. So other than that I don’t wear corrective glasses normally. So that’s it enough, in a nutshell.

04:29

Okay, so what would be your laundry list of priorities that you would like to work on? Because we can work on all of those? What do you think’s the most serious or the one that’s interfering the most for you? And we’ll start there and then we’ll work down your list.

04:47

I am concerned about the macular my father had it in his 90s and he couldn’t. It wasn’t nine days he couldn’t drive anymore. So you know, that’s kind of part of the AJC I believe but I, I am a little concerned about that I don’t obviously want that getting any worse. My distance vision, I would love to be able to correct that so that I have that again, when I don’t need a contact, you know, to drive or to see the TV. Those are like my most immediate pressing needs right now.

05:30

Okay, so what are you doing for the macular health?

05:36

I take are you doing any? Sir, I’m taking the vitamin that a red, I’m taking that I I have x excellent nutrition. I’m vegetarian, but I really eat really clean Whole Foods. My nutrition is really good. I exercise fanatically and you know, take really good care of myself. So I just I don’t believe that as we get old we have to, you know, come to the armchair and by buy into the old age stuff

06:19

are you taking anything else besides the Arutz formula?

06:22

I take. I do a supplement. It’s a seed supplement. It’s a superfood. And I do that every day. It’s has chardonnay grape seed, raspberries, C whap. Human. We d ribose. And a multivitamin. Okay, oils, fish oils and things like that.

06:53

So because you’re vegetarian, what do you do for your your fats and oils?

06:58

Um nothing in particular. And I’m not even a real stickler for protein. Although I do do a vegan protein every day. I’m really not super conscious of my fat, fat intake other than just from the seed oil, things like that.

07:26

Okay. All right. So do you how much of the time are you in on screens?

07:36

I usually and I don’t have my glasses now. But I do I wear the blue blocker. Only call me in the morning for maybe I do a lot of research and meditation and things on screen in the morning. A lot of YouTubing information and things. But other than that I’m not I’m really not online that often. But I wear my blue blockers usually.

08:05

All right. How long have you been taking the earrings formula?

08:11

Probably only about a year, year and a half since I was diagnosed with the

08:24

and do you feel like it’s helping you or? You’re not sure?

08:31

Not sure. I’m not sure but I it doesn’t hurt me so I figured I’d take it

08:42

Okay, so in the in the macular diagnosis, everything is good in the left eye. It’s just the right eye that’s showing it or Yes. Okay. Are you seeing any, like waviness in your vision or distortion or blind spots? No.

09:06

I do have floaters, right. Okay. Yeah, I have floaters that I’ve had. I had the floaters taken out of my left eye when they did the cataract surgery. I do have floaters in my room that

09:20

they use. Did they use a laser? Or how did they get the floaters out?

09:25

Yes, it used the laser and I believe some kind of a vacuum suction devices suck them out.

09:33

Yeah, okay. And how ripe is the cataract?

09:39

Ah, he said the my current ophthalmologist said it. It’s not quite ready for what he would consider surgery. However, if I really wanted it done, I could just tell the surgeon and Albuquerque about my my night vision and the fact that I see halos. But honestly, it’s the thought of surgery scares me to death and I’m like, I would do I just want to avoid that. I don’t want to do anything, you know, permanently at this point right now I I’m really afraid to lose my own original. I you know, I don’t. I’m just not ready for that. Right?

10:27

Okay, your eyes ever get dry? Do you ever have dry eye?

10:31

Ah, thank you Stu. Really bad. I taught school for 30 years in the lights was were really harsh in my eyes. I don’t really, I don’t really sense that I do get dry eyes. What I do, what I do notice on occasion is they they water, they will water like they were lottery last night, maybe when I get tired or when the air is cold, they water a lot. Sometimes they just kind of tear up and stop watering.

11:08

I see. And do you use any? Any tear drops? Any artificial tears or anything like that?

11:16

Yes. On occasion to take kind of take the read out. I do take do couple of drops on occasion. Okay.

11:29

Okay, well, there’s certainly a lot of potential here. I think that let’s start with the macula. And I can give you some ideas. And then you get to veto the ideas. You can say, Yeah, that makes sense. Or no, I don’t want to do that. I’ll take into account your perspective. You know, being a vegetarian, and, you know, we can we can work with that. That’s not a problem. Okay. So I think that you know, one of the things that happens in macular degeneration, the macula is a very tiny part of the retina makes up less than 1% of the real estate of the rent. Oh, okay. And yeah, it’s the part of our it’s the part of our eye where we see detail. And it has one of the highest nutritional needs in the entire body. Oh, wow, the retina has a very high nutritional. Yeah, it’s very high. Because of all the blood vessels, and because it’s so associated to the brain.

Usually around after the age of 4045, for all of us, we’re not getting the same nutrients to the I say that we did when we were younger. And so that coupled with, you know, using so much digital digital time, and again, just not getting enough of the nutrients that protect the macula or feed the macula, it can either dry out, or you can start to get fluid built to be building behind it. So there are a couple of things that are a little bit under the radar that say like a regular ophthalmologist who might say, Oh, you do have macular stuff. So take the errands, you know and errands. There, the NIH did the two studies 2001 2006 And they showed pretty definitively that there were certain nutrients that helped feed the macula.

And those there are about four of them, they’re more but there are four of them. One is simply vitamin A or beta carotene, vitamin A. lutein, which you’ve probably heard of you get that in like a lot of green vegetables. Xanthan which is its sister, which is more of the red orange, but those those actually, they’re called fat soluble vitamins. So you need to have a really good liver to be able to absorb those. There’s a mechanism in the liver that produces bile, and it’s stored in the gallbladder and you need to have you know enough bile so that you can break down those eye fat soluble vitamins. And if you look at acupuncture or in Chinese medicine, the liver rules the eyes. liver health and eye health are very connected. That is interest. So this is more in the energetic more in the meridians, right, not in a physical blood test. You know what I studied. I studied acupuncture when I moved out here and learned a lot of the connections between the internal organs and your eyes. So there’s a very strong highway, energetic highway between the liver and the eyes. But anyway, vitamin A and probably what?

15:46

I’m probably the chakra system is always the last part again. The chakra, your, your shock was or probably yes, the

15:53

chakra. Yeah, yes. I actually, this is a little aside. In 2009, I met a biophysicist. He’s a scientist. And he had a type of Kirlian camera, but it was a scientific scanning device. And it’s called a gdv camera. And it’s a it’s a device where you can actually through the fingertips, you get a photo photo photonic emission of all 10 fingertips, and those are the endpoints of your acupuncture meridians. So you get those pictures and then it’s converted to software. And you can actually see on a computer, your energy field.

16:38

I I’ve had that tested. I have a friend Denise Sure. Sherwin that has a health center. She has that. So I’ve actually had that done. It’s it’s incredible.

16:56

Yes, it is. Yeah. So anyway, the point of the story is is that there’s all kinds of energy systems related to your eye but let’s get back to the ingredients vitamin A, lutein, zeaxanthin. And then there’s another one which may be tricky for you to take which is called asked us zenthon. And asked us Anthon is a marine based rod Noid. Now you can get it from algae. I actually have a vitamin. That’s that’s a micro algae, if you’re able to take that. But the lutein zeaxanthin and Astra Xanth feed the macula, they kind of coat the macula, and that the flex ultraviolet light away and the blue light. And then it also feeds the Mac. Those three and then the vitamin A and zinc. Zinc helps in vitamin A absorption. And then you’ve got some secondary things like gingko bilberry, there’s an amino acid called taurine. So I’ve put all this in kind of upgrading of the Arutz. So in other words, I took the ARIS formula, and I, I individualized it and I upgraded it. And here’s the thing, your body, after a while, gets desensitized to whatever you give it. I took the same form of vitamin C row over and over and over again. It’s not it’s not really doing the same thing that might have done. So I don’t know how many more bottles you have the errands. But you might consider a couple of things that I’ve developed. One is my whole health high vitamin, and the other is the Astra Xanten. And another one that’s very good for the macula. Studies have really shown this is saffron. Wow. And because of the red spice and saffron that’s really good for the macula. I put that in a vitamin also because it’s expensive, but I’ve been able to formulate it. So those are the three things that I would highly recommend. And then the fourth, which is more optional, would be curcumin so Tumeric that you can cook with that. But see your macular likes the red colors and the orange colors. So you don’t have to supplement with curcumin I also have that as well. But I will say the vitamin, the Xanthan and the saffron would be a major upgrade for your Macula in terms of getting the proper nutrients. And so you could consider maybe making a shift on that.

19:58

Okay, yeah Definitely, I get curcumin every day and

20:06

that’s fine. So if you’re getting it, I’m just mentioning it. Because that’s also talked a lot about in the medical research, but Okay, good. But the saffron is really, that’s a game changer. And then asked Xanthan is also great. So you can go on my website and look at that. So the next thing I want to say is I also, aside from studying Chinese medicine, I studied a lot of functional medicine. So these are, you know, integrative holistic doctors that work with the gut and digestion. And what I learned from them is that we don’t produce Omega three in our body, we have to get it from outside sources. And what I learned from them is that the retina is about 50%, made up of fatty acids, this fat, so as the brain, it also coats the nervous system, it’s an anti inflammatory agent. So what I learned from them, it’s focusing on getting some type of Omega three into your body every day. And if you’re vegetarian, there are vegan and vegetarian sources of Omega three. But you want to up your game in that arena, it’s good for your brain, it’s good for your memory. I’ve seen lots of studies on the relationship between omega three and brain health and also eye health. Interesting. So I just spotlight that for, say, you know, even if you did chia seeds, and walnuts and you know, a little more flax, you could grind that up, maybe looking at an algae based Omega three, they sell those. But, you know, for non vegetarians, or non vegans, I’m recommending upwards of 2000 milligrams a day of Omega three. Wow. Okay, just as a regular dose. So it’s good for your heart. It’s good for your immune system. I mean, there’s a lot of benefits. And the thing is, is we don’t make omega three.

22:17

Interesting. I take chia seeds every day,

22:22

I would

22:24

take a look at okay, definitely, what do I do take chia seeds abrogate? It’s in my and I take a thorn product and the three but whatever you’d recommend.

22:43

You know, it’s hard to find, I think just Google vegan based or vegetarian based Omega three, and you’ll come to some really good ones. Yeah, I don’t know if Thorin puts one out or, you know, find a company you like

23:01

I do take a foreign product,

23:03

you’re just looking at the you’re looking at the amount, the 2000 milligrams, you want to feed your retina more than you. It’s kind of starving a little bit. And because you have a genetic weakness there. You’ve got to be a little more on that. So that’s now there are a couple of other things that are a little more optional for you. One is many years ago, I developed a natural eyedrop called MSM, which is a sulfur molecule were made to sulfur. And then I found it got rid of floaters. And the way I got rid of floaters is it’s a collagen, collagen creator. If you look up MSM, it’s anti inflammatory. It is a detoxification agent. So I put it in an eye drop. It’s good for dry eye, it’s good for inflammation. It’s good for the macula, it’s good for the retina. So if you’re into something a little more say natural, I would go with the 5% MSM I sell to concentrations but for you I would start with the 5% and do one drop and both eyes. You know three to four times a day so you’re getting more hydration into your eyes that will help the macula as well many things and then once you if you do that in the evening before bed, I’ve developed a castor oil I drop castor oil is incredibly for the skin it’s incredibly moisturizing. Yeah, I so I put it in an eyedropper and what you do Yeah, you know about If I put it on your eyelid

25:06

I broke my rib two weeks ago and had a big competition last week. So I did castor oil packs. And it did seem to help but I do have you know, I do know the benefits of castor oil salt. Sounds amazing. You can put it in your I did not know that.

25:26

Well, you you don’t necessarily been I’ve been able to create it. So this particular product isn’t eyedrop awesome. You can you can use it. People love it and put it in. Yeah, it’s very healing. So now you’re doing some natural feeding eyedrops day and evening, you’re doing a little more focused supplements. And then there’s one other thing I want to share with you. I’m gonna I’m going to say this is research. This comes from a research project that was done in the UK. And it was actually done by an ophthalmologist. His name is Glen Jeffrey, Glen Jeffries, Jeffrey’s lab, and he works a lot with neuroscientists. So he doesn’t work with regular eye doctors. And here’s the study, he took a group of people between the ages of 40 and 70, who were diagnosed with macular problems, like you. And he had them look through a red light red lens, three to five minutes, few times a week for 12 weeks. And the results showed that people’s vision improved by 22% by looking at this red. Wow. So you might say well, what, what is what is red? So you might see my glasses here. This is a red lens that I created based on what he said this is what the nanometers the and what red does is it stimulates something in the retina called mitochondria, which I’m sure you’ve heard of Yes. And they produce ATP. So his theory was that when we age, the ATP goes down.

The oxidative stress goes up. And also there’s something else that goes up called reactive oxygen species RLS, which is kind of like toxicity that shows up in the macula. So when he had them treat cells everyday like this, we found that most of those folks increase their mitochondria function, ATP went up, oxidative stress went down, that reactive oxygen species molecule went down drusen, which is a fatty deposit in the retina would go away. And he said this red lens helps. Now, there’s other a lot of other writings that people get these red boxes, red light boxes, yes. And the red light does the same thing to the body, right. But to be able to target it to the macula, like this. So I sell these on my website, you can get them. I was going to work with some people in you who are affiliated with them. But the shipping was going to be so expensive. So I’ve been doing light and color therapy for many, many years. And so I knew how to make these. And I went to my manufacturing, we went through a lot of research and development and prototypes. And about two months ago, I released this and it’s helping a lot of people. So it’s based on Jeffrey’s research. It’s on my website, you know, I’ve done a couple of blogs on red light mitochondria. I think you should know about it, because it really helps in the macular degeneration. Those folks. You know, what’s interesting about that study is it worked better for the older folks than it did for the younger folks. Huh. That was interesting that I’m not sure why that is. But you know, I analyze his results very carefully. We looked at what tests he did to measure people’s vision, very, very high level testing. And he’s an ophthalmologist and he’s a medical physician. And here he’s saying you know, this read

29:51

can work. When do you were though my

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colleagues in Albuquerque in the morning, good question. So what you do is you want to wear it, you know, three, no more than three hours after you’ve gotten up. So you do it in the morning. You do about five minutes or five minutes. You don’t need a bright light source. Like I don’t need to look at the sun. Okay, today probably like you it’s cloudy, kind of dim. It’s pretty nice. You know? You don’t need a light, bright, bright light source. Okay. Okay. And you can do it five days a week, you know, and if nothing else, it’s going to it’s going to boost your mitochondria. In your eye. You had a which, hey, if you can do that, without drugs and sir. It may even help the cataract I don’t know. Because we’ve got mitochondria and in the Catterick, I’m going to talk about how to reverse your cataract in a minute. But so this would be your macular program. That’s very proactive. It’s very aggressive. It’s very holistic. And it works for a ton of people that I counseled. So because you live a healthy lifestyle, because you’re, you know, you’re in good shape. I think this gives you a lot of many more tools to help you reduce the risk of what your dad went through.

31:22

Beautiful love. So

31:23

any questions about the macular protocol? Um, I think it’s easy. It’s, there’s nothing hard.

31:32

No, it seems like they’re totally in line with everything that I you know, believe in that I’m doing. I do. Go to my friend’s health facility she has read like that I’m in the box. Ah, usually on a weekly basis, and I would kind of helps, you know, kind of same sort of idea with the red with the glass.

31:56

Well, I, I think this is great. You can tell her about it and ask her. You know why she uses the red? Yes. I’m not like it’s gonna be the same principles.

32:06

Definitely. I know about the whole site, but I think yeah,

32:12

yeah, there’s a, there’s a lot written about it. And big pharma doesn’t like it, but so what?

32:20

Exactly, exactly, yeah. Sounds good.

32:25

Let’s talk about your, let’s talk about your lens, the lens in your eye in the right eye, which you want to avoid surgery. Right. So the lens is a protein material, okay. And one of the enemies of a healthy lens is the glucose molecules that float around in our body. And what happens in a cataract is the glucose molecule attaches to the protein molecule. And this is called glycation. glycation is also is one of the causes of floaters. a glucose molecule either attach to the collagen, or the protein molecule in the vitreous that’s behind the lens, or we’re talking about the lens right now. So I did a lot of research on how can we stop this marriage between the glucose molecule and the protein molecule in the lens. And I came up with a natural ingredient, something called Berberine be er B E R, I N E Berberine. And I also put in another very important antioxidant for the lens called Alpha Lipoic. Acid. probably heard of it. Yes. So again, in my on my way door, I’ve created a lens protocol, the Berberine. And studies have shown that when people develop cataracts, they’re low in two ingredients. Number one, glutathione a number two vitamin C. Oh, interesting was a big study done in 2016. That said that people who got at least 1000 milligrams a day of vitamin C had a 33% lower risk of developing cataracts.

34:31

Oh my gosh.

34:34

So Oh, with the vitamin C, you want to get up again, you can look at my lens health protocol glutathione I have that on there. I have vitamin C on there, and the Berberine and then we’re going to take my vitamin that works, that would be a great combination. So you No mix and match how you want to do it. That coupled with taking the MSM 5%, eyedrops, and the castor oil, that’s going to, you know, hydrate the lens more, which is good. And the Berberine is going to help get rid of any of that glycation that’s created that the clumping of the proteins, which is creating the cloudiness, and then you’re going to avoid cataract surgery. So that would be my suggestion on the on the cataract conversation.

35:35

Yeah, that this is such good now.

35:37

Yes. Now, I want to ask you about your left eye, which sees well up close and it doesn’t need any correction. Is that Is that correct? It doesn’t need any correct Have you ever tried? Okay, Have you have you met, here’s my concern about what’s going on, here’s my concern that your brain is being split right now. Meaning that part of the driving stuff is the fact that your left eye is not engaged with your right eye when you drive, you’re in what we call mono vision, right. And so that’s going to inhibit your ability to judge distances. So one of the thoughts that I have, and maybe we need to explore this is to see if we can get you some kind of a lens correction in the left eye. That would help you see better at distance, so it’s matching the right eye more. Now we match the left eye and right eye for distance. And that’s just part time. And then when you read, you don’t need that. And we match the reading of the right eye to the left eye.

Again, a lot of eye doctors don’t see the value or the importance on a functional level. But because of my physical therapy training, man, it is so critical that your eyes are matching, based on whatever distance you’re looking at. It makes all the difference in the world in your decision making and your processing. Because right now your left eye stuck up here. And your right eye is probably out here, I don’t know. But we need to we need to get that we need to upgrade that. Now either. Somebody in Albuquerque, you tell them. I want something corrected for my left eye a distance so it matches my right eye. And then I want something up close, or my right eyes matching my left eye. Sounds like you don’t need a lens up close. Because you you’re you’re just using your cataract. So it might just be something in the right eye. But I would say that is a top priority. And it will take some of the stress off the miraculous. Interesting see part of the situation you’re in. But you’re not functionally using your eyes together and your brain is confused by this eye. It’s got it’s got to suppress one of the eyes.

38:35

That the problem is

38:37

I’m not speaking at a school here. I never Yeah, got it.

38:41

The problem is I don’t have my distance vision anymore. Neither do I have my close up vision in my right eye. I don’t see a close and I can’t see far. So if I were to do that, I think I would have to have correction in both eyes. Because I don’t have good vision and

39:00

I could be easily I could I could at least give you that’s I do that a lot with people. You wouldn’t you’d be surprised people with LASIK surgery, cataract surgery, they come and see me and they’ve lost their by nodularity Yes. So I would at least see if the way that you know we’re gonna have to be creative here. Okay, and you know, like you have one pair of shoes, you probably need you have many pairs of shoes, you need multiple kinds of prescriptions in a way that gives you better by nodularity. Okay. And if you’re seeing well up close with the left eye, I would say chances are we could correct the left eye through some kind of a contact lens or glasses to give you better distance vision in the left eye. Absolutely this token right i There’s something that we could give you up close. And I’d be watching very carefully the match between how the right eye could match to the left eye up close. So it may be you need a lens in the left eye for distance.

And you need a lens for the right eye up close. I don’t know. But I feel that I feel it’s worth it, that I’ve done this so many times with people that have been mascot cases, because of the surgeries. And we’ve been able to come up with something creatively that gives them more support, where both of their their eyes are showing up together. And then once you get that, then I could give you some physical therapy exercises to reinforce the visual connection between the two eyes. Sounds, but first, we need to get the proper match. And then, yeah, this is the functional part of vision that eye doctors don’t, they’re looking at correcting optics at distance, and reading. And then doing surgery, that’s that’s mostly what they’re into, they’re not looking at the relationship between the eyes in the brain and functionally, how they work together. And that’s a missing piece for you, that’s creating some stress here.

You know, some of my somatic therapists will say to me 60% of body tension is carried in the eyeballs towards 60% of body tension is carried. You’re a symptomatic person. So you you get that it’s way too much tension to be carrying a release valve will be, we got to get this situation more harmonious. And so now the snow is going to stop, it’s going to get into spring, sometime you come up to Santa Fe, we’ll have an appointment, you can start these things. And then I can check you I can actually look into your eyes, give you an update. Maybe we tweak something here or there. And then we spend our time with the proper lens prescriptions, and then physical therapy exercises. And then after our session, you can go find a nice place and go out to lunch.

42:21

You know, actually, so I, I live in Santa Fe, my I teach in Albuquerque. I live here so I’m I’m not far from me. You’re in my neighborhood, I’m on the north side. We’re close. And I think that’s perfect protocol. I love that idea.

42:43

So in the meantime, you can get the red lens, get all this on my webstore you can take a look at the things that I’m suggesting the saffron, and the Astra Xanthan and the eye vitamin. Look at the lens health stuff, look at the castor oil on the MSM, start those things like get going on that. And then in a few weeks, or within a few weeks or whenever you know, we can meet. Okay, then. And by the way, if you need if you have any written prescriptions, like anything that other doctors have given you, via contact lens, or you know, ask them for the written numbers. So that we have a reference point to start from, that’ll make it easier for me, and then we can move faster. And when you come here, I don’t use machines anymore. So we’ll do free space with lenses and in this beautiful space. And then you’ll be able to, we’ll come up with something that will definitely give you more the key is integration, heretofore reducing your stress. And I’ll give you some physical therapy things that you can do. That will be gold for you. And now you’re, you’re sailing now in a direction where you’re improving, and not just waiting for the next surgery to happen. Enough of that.

44:07

I love it. You’re exactly the perfect match for me. So this is this is such a great protocol. Yes. Oh, thank you.

44:17

Yeah. Well, thank Joe for this.

44:22

I absolutely will she he raved about you. And I’m like I couldn’t. I was worried about eating late. I said I can’t drive at night. She says no, you gotta go see Dr. Burns and like I’ve heard of his name before. Finally go so definitely.

44:41

Right. Now we gotta get your left eye engaged with the right eye for driving and then you’ll be able to do it. I love this. If that’s the problem. You’re not engaging the left. Yes. Yeah. Like no reason that you have to stop. Yeah, love it. Yeah. So you Do you have any other questions or comments? I mean, this is kind of a full tofu wrap here this pretty filling a lot of information. Is there anything else you feel you want to cover? Talk about? Any other questions that I’ve that you need more clarification? I think you can always send me an email. You’ll get this recording, you can listen. Oh, perfect.

45:31

Perfect. Yeah, we’re a little delayed I, you know, the delay, our connection is a little batch. When we when we hook up in person, it will be really great. I look forward to that day. But in the meantime, I will definitely follow your protocol and, and get started on this. But I love your idea about matching the eyes. Makes complete sense to me. I know that feeling of that stress, when your eyes aren’t sinking. I get it. So I know, with the block surgery, that was the worst part is so much stress, because I couldn’t see you know, so I get it was awful.

46:12

Yeah, it’s not a good scene, but we can fix it. We just, we’ll just start where you are. And then we’ll move you in the direction where there’s there’s contact again. Beautiful, and I feel confident I can I can help you. And then the exercises will just reinforce the connection. So it’ll be simple stuff that’s fun. That you’ll enjoy.

46:39

Okay, should I make an appointment now? Or do you want me to just call in a few weeks and schedule a follow up?

46:47

Yeah, just calling a few weeks get you know, this is enough. Digested a little bit. And, you know, we’ll pick a day when it’s when things are closed. And yeah. Yeah, well, you can come up here and you’ll enjoy it.

47:05

Beautiful. I want to see your face because I might want to read. I want might want to build a taekwondo place like Yes, beautiful. Thank you tips on how to I say welcome. Thank you

47:29

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