The Benefit Whisperer

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Chris Deacon: $2B Scam Broker Kickbacks & PBM Profits Fiduciary Duties Exposed (Ep. 27)

September 22, 2025

Guest: Chris Deacon, author of The Great American Healthcare Heist and former Director of Health Benefits, State of New Jersey.

Chris joins Ralph Weber to reveal how her team saved $2 billion, including $400M annually on pharmacy spend, by exposing PBM shell games, fixing contracts, and enforcing fiduciary duty.

???? Topics:

  • How much waste is really in your health plan (30–40%)
  • Reverse auctions and pass-through PBMs explained
  • Why discount guarantees are often a scam
  • Contract terms every plan sponsor should demand

???? Listen now to understand how to stop paying for other people’s profits.

???? Buy the book: The Great American Healthcare Heist

 ???? Connect with Chris:https://www.linkedin.com/in/cdeaconc/

???? Questions? ralph@thebenefitwhisperer.com · fixmybenefitsnow.com