This is a most candid and revealing conversation on the subject of systemic racism and culture. Here the two women converse about what we've learned, what continues to scare us, and our hope for the future. When asked how white people can become better allies to people of color, Ronita gives a sweeping list of things that people can do. Ronita Johnson has worked at the intersection of DEI which stands for diversity, equality, inclusion, and has been convening sacred circles for over 30 years. She cut her teeth in the corporate world as a first diversity manager in a large corporate organization in the 80s. Skilled in the practice of dialogue, she creates safe spaces for listening, learning, and self-reflection to bring conscious that which lies in shadow. In 2010, after a successful diversity consulting career, Ronita retired to devote all her energies to convening circles. She hosts online and in person circle gatherings, organic in nature and focused on authentic conversations toward excavating truth around life giving topics that matter. She, along with Justine Toms, are founding conveners of the Millionth Circle. She is also an original convener of Women Eradicating Racism and convener facilitator of Becoming Anti Racists. Dhr is the author of Coming To Forgiveness: A Daughter’s Story Of Race, Rage And Religion (Ronita Johnson & Associates 2012)Interview Date: 8/26/2020   Tags: Ronita Johnson, white privilege, Jacob Blake, unequal treatment, Eric Garner, George Floyd, Ibram X. Kendi, 13th Amendment, stop and frisk, for profit prisons, school to prison pipeline, W. Kamau Bell, Shades of America, New Orleans 9th ward, Jim Crow laws, John Lewis, Social Change/Politics