When we can make friends with our fear, we open up a huge amount of information that can help us make better choices for ourselves." - Leisa Peterson In this episode, Ana Melikian welcomes Leisa Peterson, renowned money mindset expert and author of The Money Catalyst, to explore the hidden dynamics behind financial success and the pervasive “Never Enough” mindset—even among high achievers. Leisa reveals the subtle signs of scarcity thinking and guides listeners on how to shift from fear-based to values-aligned decisions, redefining abundance on their own terms. Leisa shares why she chose to illustrate financial transformation through the fictional character Maribel, allowing readers to safely examine their own money stories and emotional triggers. Together, Ana and Leisa explore how our relationship with money is deeply intertwined with our bodies, relationships, and leadership styles—and how self-awareness and curiosity can unlock greater choices and joy. The conversation also tackles the role of fear in uncertain times. Rather than pushing fear away, Leisa encourages making friends with it, uncovering its wisdom, and applying it compassionately—whether with ourselves, colleagues, or loved ones. She offers practical advice for navigating financial discussions in relationships, including the importance of planning, open communication, and respecting both risk-taking and cautious perspectives. Let’s dive in! This week on The Mindset Zone: 00:00 Introduction: Making friends with fear for better choices 02:00 Spotting the “Never Enough” mindset in successful people 04:35 Using story to create breakthrough money mindset shifts 07:28 How scarcity and abundance impact bodies, relationships, and leadership 10:30 Shifting from fear-based to values-aligned decisions 12:11 Fear as a strategic guide—getting curious, not judgmental 15:26 Addressing fear in ourselves and others (including children and employees) 18:28 Expanding possibilities amid uncertainty and stress 20:26 Supporting partners and loved ones with different money mindsets 22:32 How writing The Money Catalyst created personal transformation About the Guest Leisa Peterson is an internationally recognized money mindset expert, author, and the founder of Wealth Clinic. With over thirty years of experience as a financial planner and transformational coach, Leisa specializes in helping individuals and leaders break free from limiting money beliefs, move beyond scarcity thinking, and step into greater abundance. Her latest book, The Money Catalyst, uses storytelling and journaling to inspire readers toward healthier, values-driven financial decisions. Leisa’s work is grounded in compassion, deep insight, and a dedication to personal and collective transformation. Connect with: Leisa Peterson's LinkedIn Profile Wealth Clinic The Money Catalyst Related Content: Expand What’s Possible