Exploring Tolkien

Exploring Tolkien


Movies are NOT Sub-Creation – On Fairy Stories, Part 4

August 15, 2023

When Tolkien talks about Fantasy, he doesn’t simply mean fiction stories set in sword-and-sorcery worlds.  Fantasy is the highest form of sub-creation, the “most nearly pure form”–and the most potent. An art form that is “best left to words, to true literature.”


Michael, Dan, and I discuss this idea of Fantasy as the one form of Art that comes closest to true Enchantment.  We look at:


  • The difference between imagination and fantasy.
  • The ideal of “Faërian Drama”.
  • The problem with “modern” sensibilities in Fantasy–and how that ruins true sub-creation.
  • Why films will never match the power of true sub-creation.

Then in our members-only episode (https://theonering.com/members) we:


  • Did Peter Jackson’s films destroy Tolkien’s sub-creative vision?
  • Can Tolkien’s faith be separated from his sub-creation? Should it?
  • Is there a difference between determinative and discovery sub-creation?
  • “No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. No surprise in the writer, no surprise in the reader.”