On our fourth episode, Maggie Umberger sat down with Dr. Ari Levy, who has a lofty goal to change the way health care is administered. He encountered one big setback along the way that could have stopped him on his lifelong pursuit of that dream. How he overcame that helped him see that he could defy the odds in other ways too.

Listen to Ari talk about that and how he came to found SHIFT.