On this episode it is my absolute pleasure to chat with Gareth about his life , his experiences, his books and more especially about his latest book " Beyond The Secret Elephants". The most fascinating part of the book is where Gareth talks about the existence of a relict hominoid know to the local forrest dwellers as the Otang.  This is a must listen and do yourself a favour and get the book.
 
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