An interview with Josh Clark and Stephen Hay recorded at UXLx 2015. Josh is the man behind Big Medium, formally Globalmoxie, and was the closing keynote speaker at UXLx. Stephen Hay is the author of Responsive Design Workflow, designer, developer and magician.

We talked to Josh and Stephen about magic, illusion, deception and persuasion. How you should lie to your users and clients. We take a dive into the design process. Do you let the client see behind the curtain? How the mental models of your clients should steer your communication - show them what they want to see.

(Listening time 34 minutes)

https://soundcloud.com/uxpodcast/101-magical-ux-with-josh-clark-stephen-hay

https://twitter.com/uxpodcast/status/609265871081598976
References:

Notes from Josh's talk by Bruno Amaral
The Art of Deception sketchnotes by Per Axbom
Josh and Stephen's airport vanishing act