Jon Wurster is the drummer for Superchunk, The Mountain Goats and Bob Mould. He's also a comedy writer and has created many character "guests" on Tom Scharplings' "The Best Show".  Joe and Jon get to catch up after not seeing each other on the road for a couple years. They discuss the North Carolina political climate, Jon's pandemic routine and the documentary's that Jon's been watching in his down time.  They also veer into drummer talk, addressing Bill Stevenson and Dave Lombardo's effortless, fluttering styles. We hear a song from the new Bob Mould record called "American Crisis" that matches the current social/political climate in both ferocity and volume!  Music by Palm Fronds and Joe Plummer.  Episode sponsored by Izoptope.

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