Atiba Jefferson is known around the world for his skateboarding photography.  Over the last 20 years he has also found massive success shooting portraits for the NBA, Nike, musicians, and many commercial entities.  In this episode we learn what the BLM movement means to him as a black American, what he's doing to cope with the Covid-19 pandemic, and how important music is to his life outside of photography. We also hear a new song from his solo efforts and find out how he wound up playing with the drummer Jon Theodore. Music by Atiba Jefferson, Joe Plummer, Covet and The Coromandelles.