Greg Saunier is best know as the drummer of Deerhoof. He is also a composer, arranger, mixing engineer and producer. In this episode Greg talks self discovery via quarantine with his partner of a few months. We also discuss how the current BLM and social injustice movement's persistence is proving to wear down antiquated, outdated social and government systems. Greg tells us how The Shins inspired a song on the record Runners Four and turns us on to a new project called Stargaze that covers Fugazi songs with solo instruments. Enjoy.