NAE President Walter Kim and Dr. Curt Thompson go back to the very beginning and discuss how we see this embodied and relational reality, as well as the effects of trauma and shame, in the first four chapters of Genesis.

They also explore:

• How Western thinking has influenced our understanding of spirituality;
• Why being receptive to love is more difficult than loving others;
• How we can create spaces for others to experience beauty and goodness; and
• What practices or outlooks can help us care for our soul.

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