How do people change? And, why is change so elusive? These were the questions that compelled Ted Harro to consider the work of Renovaré, a Christian nonprofit that helps people become more like Jesus.

After a 30 year career in business consulting, Ted now leads Renovaré as its president. In Today’s Conversation, he talks with Walter Kim, NAE president, about spiritual formation and how to be people who are truly transformed by God. They discuss what it means to develop the mindset of Christ.

Ted also shares:

• How to cultivate an authentic approach to spiritual disciplines without falling into legalism;
• Why creating more space for “depth” in churches is an antidote to society’s frenetic pace;
• What role community plays in spiritual disciplines and formation; and
• What lessons he’s learning through life and leadership.