In this episode, we sit down with Reverend Heidi Grossman of Sugarleaf Church — a bold spiritual leader and fierce advocate for sacred plant medicine. From building one of California’s largest entheogenic churches to facing down federal raids and 28 felony charges, her journey is nothing short of wild.

We dive deep into the real war on drugs, what spiritual sovereignty really means, and why the battle for access to natural medicines is far from over. Hope you enjoy the show!