Kelly and Emily have a rat problem on the podcast - and that problem is that they've spent so much of their lives not considering the implications and cultural evolution of a large-scale society of super-powered, semi-immortal science rats.

This week, Emily and Kelly curl up with the furry folk from Robert C. O'Brien's "Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH". It's time to dive deep into the questions of cultural isolation, the changing ethics of literary narratives on animal experimentation, and that time that Emily made friends with a subway rat. Also: apparently the rats had magic powers in the movie? It's a wild world out there.

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Music: "Heartbreaker" by Jahzzar (betterwithmusic.com)