We switch gears this week and talk with Chris Cobb, owner of the Exit/In music venue in Nashville, TN, OG Nutbutter Campmate, and precinct captain of the newly formed National Independent Venue Association. NIVA was formed to help preserve the ecosystem of independent venues across the country while they are force to close throughout the pandemic. Chris shared some eye-opening insights about the state of live music and told us what he thought it would take for a large festival like Bonnaroo to resume. Also: has Brad found the perfect festival food?