The Barbie movie has sparked great controversy so we invited journalist Liz Plank to discuss. Some are burning their Barbie's and calling it "anti-man" while others view it as a strategic call out to the challenges both men and women face on a regular basis. We've learned to view the world through a patriarchal lens, so when it's flipped only then can we see how those in power mistreat those who aren't.  This is pro-anyone wanting secure relating and mutuality - all genders welcome!  

Ann and Sue are joined by Liz Plank to dive into the symbolism of the Barbie movie and how it applies to real life and secure relating. Listen now to explore patriarchy, masculinity, and the hierarchies of our society - and important steps we can take to build security through vulnerability for a more inclusive world.