In this episode, Tessa and Amir reflect on the conclusion of Season One and the upcoming content that delves deeper into key topics surrounding aging. They express excitement over a forthcoming interview with relationship experts Charlie and Linda Bloom, but the focus here pivots to the enlightening conversation with Ashton Applewhite, an advocate against ageism and author of "This Chair Rocks: A Manifesto Against Ageism." 

Ashton presents a transformative perspective on aging, encouraging listeners to embrace growing older as a journey toward wisdom rather than a decline. Tessa emphasizes how Ashton’s messages resonate deeply as many enter what she calls "Act III" of life, navigating new challenges and opportunities that come when children leave home. The discussion reveals the prevalent cultural biases regarding aging, particularly the obsession with youthfulness, and how these narratives can be dismantled. Ashton articulates that successful aging is less about resisting the signs of getting older and more about acknowledging our inherent value at every stage of life.

Throughout their dialogue, Tessa and Ashton explore the paradox of why society equates aging with negativity, exposing how this conditioning impacts our self-perception. Ashton shares insights on the “u curve of happiness,” highlighting the reality that many people find greater satisfaction in the later stages of life, contrary to popular belief. The conversation takes a poignant turn as they tackle the concept of agelessness, challenging the notion that one should strive to appear younger. This advocacy for authenticity encourages listeners to embrace their chronological age as part of their identity.

As the conversation unfolds, Ashton shares the importance of open-mindedness in examining our own biases toward age and empowering ourselves to engage with younger generations to foster community. She discusses various societal changes and movements aimed at combating ageism, including the World Health Organization’s recent campaign to address age-related discrimination globally. Tessa highlights the shared responsibility of individuals to redefine aging in a more positive light by fostering intergenerational relationships and communities that value all ages equally.

Ashton and Tessa also venture into discussions around personal challenges related to aging, the experience of losing mobility, and how to redefine what it means to stay active and adventurous at any age. They touch upon crucial themes such as the exploration of sensuality and intimacy as people grow older, aiming to break the stereotypes surrounding elderly sexuality and invite a more nuanced conversation about desire and connection.

In wrapping up this rich conversation, Tessa and Amir urge listeners to shift their mindset from fearing aging to celebrating it. They underscore the idea of being "older and bolder," embracing all the experiences life brings as an opportunity for growth. Tessa reflects on how Ashton’s insights inspire a collective movement towards acceptance and positivity around aging, making it clear that there’s much to look forward to in our later years. 

This episode is not just an exploration of the aging process; it is an invitation to reframe the dialogue around aging in our society, encouraging everyone to adopt a mindset that values our lived experiences over youthful appearances.