K: So, lately I’ve been thinking about moving. And… would we ever?

C: Okay, good. I’m a little bit relieved.

K: (laughs)

C: I don’t think we’re moving. This is not a good time.

K: This is a pretty big place for just two people. Not big by American standards, but by Japanese standards, it’s huge. Like the White House huge for two people. But… for Japanese standards wise. For American standards wise, this is a comfortable retirement condo. 

C: Yeah. I agree with that. 

K: Yeah. So, do you think we’d ever move from here, or do you think this is our forever home?

C: I can’t see us moving from here to somewhere else in Nagoya, so I think if we were moving cities.

K: (laughs) Yeah. No. We are not – (laughs) Why would we move from here to somewhere else in Nagoya? 

C: I don’t know.

K: That’s so wackadoo. 

C: Yeah, I don’t know. And I don’t see us becoming snowbirds or… sunbirds or whatever.

K: What are you talking about? Why are we becoming birds?

C: Like, snowbirds are people who go to the snowy places in the winter for skiing or whatever.

K: Okay.

C: And I think they call them sunbirds for like people who go to Florida during the winter for the sun.

K: I think you’re making something up.

C: I am making something up, but I’m not sure which one. 

K: Okay. (laughs) Because we – we’re definitely still going to travel.

C: Oh, yeah.

K: You owe me a trip to New Zealand, man. 

C: I do.

K: Yeah. I want to go to New Zealand.

C: Yeah.

K: Like, for visiting, not for living.

C: Right.

K: But I – and, looking at New Zealand, and I think because I’ve been looking at New Zealand a lot – I’m kind of attracted to it. Like, it looks like a good – I don’t know – they’re really courting retirees. I feel like they’re courting us.

C: Yeah, I feel like they

K: We’re not retirees, but they’re still courting us.

C: I feel like they damaged their reputation a little bit.

K: Okay, how so?

C: Because, back near the end of March, they said, “our borders are closed. As of now.”

K: (laughs) 

C: “If you’re here, tough shit.” 

K: (laughs) I shouldn’t be laughing. Okay, here’s the thing: I do not think the pandemic is a laughing matter. It’s very serious, but I laugh when I’m surprised.

C: Yes. 

K: So, you guys just heard my awkward, inappropriate laugh because I’ve just been shocked by something. Because I don’t know how to feel about it, so I crack up laughing.

C: Yup.

K: (laughs) And it makes me feel so insensitive. It makes me feel so uncomfortable, but I can’t help it.

C: Mm.

K: So, now you guys have just experienced what Chad’s been dealing with for twe- over twenty years. 

C: Yup.

K: Poor, poor Chad.

C: It was a thing. They sent out a message. 

K: (laughs) I didn’t know which thing you were saying is a thing. Like, New Zealand or me laughing at your pain. Or me laughing at really horrible news.

C: Both are things.

K: Yeah.

C: But they sent out a message saying, “wherever you stay tonight, that’s where you’re staying. So, make sure”

K: Wherever you’re what?

C: Wherever you stay tonight, that’s where you’re staying. 

K: (laughs) What are you talking about? Wherever – what are you talking about?

C: So, let’s say you were having a sleepover with your friend. 

K: Uh-huh.

C: That’s where you would have to stay for the quarantine. 

K: No. That’s not real.

C: Yeah, that was real.

K: No, that’s not real.

C: Yes. Yes. It was a big thing