In this episode, I welcome back my dear friend of more than 25 years, Valorie Burton — bestselling author of 14 books, CEO of the Coaching and Positive Psychology (CaPP) Institute, and my mentor coach.

Valorie joins me to talk about her newest release, Rules of Resilience: 10 Ways Successful People Get Better, Wiser, and Stronger, dropping September 16, 2025. Together we explore why resilience is more than a buzzword, how it looks in real life (hint: sometimes messy), and why it’s a system you can strengthen with intentional practices.

• Why resilience isn’t about being “tough” but about getting back up — even when it’s messy.
• How cognitive distortions like catastrophizing can derail you, and the tools to counter them.
• The critical link between values, purpose, and resilience.
• Why resilience should be taught in schools and practiced in organizations.
• How Valorie applied her own rules while writing the book, facing down her inner “gremlins.”
• The bonus rule: paying resilience forward to your peers, family, and future generations.