Navigating Work’s New Normal: Quiet Quitting and Coffee Badging With Business Psychos Podcasters

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/business-psychos-podcast/id1741179093

Business Psychos Podcast Website: Businesspsychos.com

About the Guest(s):

Mary Schaub and Katie Bickford

Mary Schaub: Mary brings three decades of expertise in building transformative capabilities at top-tier consultancies such as Oliver Wyman and Boston Consulting Group. She has held executive roles in change management at large financial institutions.

Katie Bickford: Katie boasts over 20 years of experience in building global revenue teams in high-growth tech companies, achieving $3 billion in exits through public listings or private equity acquisitions. She is also the author of “Parama Method: A Guide for Personal Transformation.”

Episode Summary:

In this episode of The Chris Voss Show, Chris is joined by Mary Schaub and Katie Bickford, founders of the “Business Psychos” podcast. They discuss their journey from meeting at an insight meditation retreat to creating a podcast that addresses the intricacies of work culture and personal development. This episode delves into how their diverse professional backgrounds influence the content they produce, aimed at helping professionals navigate the complexities of modern work life without going insane.

Mary and Katie talk about the importance of addressing unspoken issues in the workplace, such as mental health, burnout, and the politics of corporate environments. They offer invaluable insights into why they chose the provocative title “Business Psychos” and how they use humor and candor to shed light on serious subjects. Topics like “quiet quitting,” ageism, and the evolving expectations of work-from-home and hybrid setups are dissected, providing listeners with engaging and deeply relevant takeaways.

Key Takeaways:

Navigating Modern Work Culture: Unveil the importance of balancing personal and professional life amidst evolving workplace norms.

Quiet Quitting & Office Politics: Understand the psychological and practical aspects of trends like quiet quitting and the ramifications of deceptive practices like “coffee badging.”

Ageism and Career Longevity: Gain insights into the challenges older professionals face in a dynamically changing job market.

Shame as a Motivator: Learn why shaming is detrimental to workplace morale and productivity.

Sharing Stories: Discover the therapeutic and educational value of sharing personal and professional stories.

Notable Quotes:

Mary Schaub: “We talk about how to navigate the complexity of work culture and modern life without becoming a psycho.”

Katie Bickford: “Quiet quitting is really about how exhausting it is to trade your life just to collect a wage.”

Mary Schaub: “Shame’s not great for learning, it’s not great for trust, teaming, innovation, or creativity.”

Katie Bickford: “There really is a practical life you have to come back to and making the most out of a professional career can help you live the life that aligns with your values.”

Mary Schaub: “The podcast scratches a different emotional intimacy itch that goes back to my relationship with my dad.”

Living and thriving in your professional life. Stay tuned for more enlightening conversations on The Chris Voss Show.