Getting out of the shit, although a nasty sounding title, has something relevant to do with Pat. Whilst walking through the desert one day on patrol, he got himself in a shitty situation.

However, the main focus point in this show is, how to say goodbye to a dog for behavioural reasons.  This is a predicament that many of us Professional trainers have had to assess and help make the right choice.  We also unpack a little bit about the difference between decision and choice.

The show gets a little deep and turns a few corners, however we had an interesting chat.

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