"The systems, institutions, and policies in place teach Black women that success is in our academic accomplishments. The higher we go in academia, the greater we are. I am now in a place where I am rejecting this. I am no longer in a place where I feel I need to prove my worth and value to people, places, and things that inherently see me as valueless. Working on my doctorate degree became so taxing, I was anxious to simply log into my account. It was a years-long battle in my head of “There is work to do. Why aren’t you doing the work? Are you lazy?” I was filled with these internalized thoughts that I wasn’t doing enough but in reality, I just did not want to do it." ~ Profit Without Oppression: A Blueprint for Building an Antiracist Organization

In this episode, Kim and Erin discuss Kim's reasons for walking away from pursing her Doctor of Business Administration degree.