Paul Jay joins host David Swanson to discuss the events of Jan. 6th and what the Financial Times called a coup in progress - on Jan. 4th. Why are so few talking about this now?

David Swanson

Welcome to Talk World Radio. A half hour discussion of politics as if the people mattered. I'm David Swanson. This week on Talk Nation Radio, why hasn't Trump been prosecuted in court yet? Our guest, Paul Jay, is a journalist and filmmaker. He's the founder and publisher of theAnalysis.news website. He is past chair of the Documentary Organization of Canada and was the founding chair of the HotDocs Canadian International Documentary Festival. Paul Jay was the co-executive producer of Face Off and Counterspin nightly primetime debate programs that ran for 10 years on CBC News World.

Jay was the founder of the Real News Network. Paul Jay is currently working on a documentary series with Daniel Ellsberg based on his terrific book, Doomsday Machine. Paul. Jay, welcome to Talk Nation Radio. Thanks very much, Dana.

Very glad to finally have you on here. You had me on your various programs many, many times for which I was grateful, and there are some terrific articles you've written at theAnalysis.news. What is your view? Should Donald Trump be prosecuted in court? And if so, how? And for what?

Paul Jay

Well, there are so many things. Where do you begin?

The angle I'm taking because other people have picked up other reasons he should be prosecuted is that I think he attempted I think there's evidence that he attempted a coup meaning he tried to get the acting secretary of defense to intervene with the military before the inauguration of Biden and actually do what Michael Flynn publicly called for in mid-December, declare martial law and call a new election. I think it was delusional, but it seems to be a real scheme, and the reason I'm saying so is because it was publicly attacked, denounced in The Washington Post, first of all, by 10, former secretaries of defense wrote a letter calling on the military not to intervene, and then Admiral Stavridis, I always screw up his name, I'm sorry, but he was the former supreme commander of NATO.

He wrote an article on January 4th, which is the same day the ten secretaries letter hit the post supporting the ten secretaries, and this former NATO commander also talks about the possibilities of the acting secretary of defense.The words he used is not having the "temperament to stand up to a willful president" and specifically says that this was all done in response to retired General Michael Flynn.

Paul Jay

And so this seems to have been a real scheme to try to involve the military, and it's not just me that thinks this, the Financial Times think it was also on the 4th. All of this seems to hit on January 4th.

The Financial Times has an editorial where they say, as bizarre as it seems, there is a coup in progress, and so it's not just me coming to this conclusion. That's the editorial board of the Financial Times. So organizing a coup, attempting to organize a coup, associated with violence, and the violence obviously is the riot on January 6th, which I'm calling the final act of a failed coup.

The Democrats, the media, the press, everyone's focused just on that one day, but they're taking the day out of the context that the day was supposed to be, it seems, the trigger for a military intervention. Now, I think Trump was out of his mind, and I'm actually even surprised that these leading figures, secretaries of defense and also there was a couple of tweets from Milley, the chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, also telling the military to stay out of this.