No pandemic is gender-neutral and neither is Covid-19, which is negatively affecting the lives of women and girls. Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka is the Executive Director of UN Women and she spoke to Roisin Ingle from lockdown in South Africa about the three areas where women and girls are particularly at risk in the current crisis: Domestic violence, frontline work - the majority of workers are women - and financially. Previously, Mlambo-Ngcuka served as Deputy President of South Africa, the first woman to hold the position and at that point the highest ranking woman in the history of South Africa.

Also in the episode, singer songwriter Megan O'Neill spoke about her new song Fire With Fire, inspired by the way women in the music industry are pitted against each other.