Joe Mulholland, director of the MacGill Summer School, has apologised for the lack of gender balance on its 2018 and promised there will now be panels on the #8thRef and gender balance. A draft programme of the event shows there are 45 male speakers and moderators compared to 15 female speakers and moderators. Women's Podcast co-producer Róisín Ingle and Irish Times feature writer Deirdre Falvey join Kathy Sheridan to share their views on the controversy. They're joined on the line by Ben Tonra of UCD, who was one of the speakers lined up for MacGill but announced that he wouldn't be appearing unless they fixed it. He talks to Kathy Sheridan about why it’s important men step up and speak out about the “manel” culture.

In the second part of the show, street performance artists Kate MIor and Sara Schmidt about the Laya Healthcare City Spectacular in Dublin's Merrion Square & Cork's Fitzgerald Park this July.