We discussed: - the appreciation for rituals - without gravity you have no grace - his desire to create structures and the perversion of the structures - how he comes up with his concepts - outsourcing production of art work - how he funds his art creation - his choice to not have a consistent style or brand - storage and shipping fo large scale artworks - his position on NFT art   People + Places mentioned: Christadelphians - http://www.christadelphia.org/belief.php Galleria Borghese - https://galleriaborghese.beniculturali.it Anna Coliva - https://www.divento.com/en/content/305-meet-anna-coliva Massacre of the Innocents by Scarsella Ippolito called Scarsellino - https://galleriaborghese.beniculturali.it/en/opere/massacre-of-the-innocents/ Lithophane - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithophane   3 artists instrumental to him: Man Ray Bruce Nauman Carl Andre   matcollishaw.com   Hosted by Matthew Dols http://matthewdols.com Supported in part by: EEA Grants from Iceland, Liechtenstein + Norway https://eeagrants.org and we appreciate the assistance of our partners in this project: Hunt Kastner – https://huntkastner.com Kunstsentrene i Norge – https://www.kunstsentrene.no