We discussed: - paper as a cultural touchstone - find something you like to do and figure out how to make a living at it - paper as an artistic medium - the definition of paper - pulp paint - paper making residency - Fellowships - being safe in the studio during covid - concerns about post covid art funding - the benefits of webinars - how to float paper works in a frame - paper as a sculptural medium - rubber molds and laminate casting - new technologies in paper making - watermarks - ecological concerns of paper production - toilet paper is very good at what it does   People + Places mentioned: University of Iowa Center for the Book - https://book.grad.uiowa.edu/ Timothy Barrett - https://magazine.foriowa.org/story.php?ed=true&storyid=990 Kris Philipps - https://www.sarahlawrence.edu/news-events/news/2018-05-31-three-beloved-sarah-lawrence-faculty-members-retire-nr.html Fritzi Huber - http://wisefoolpod.com/handmade-paper-artist-fritzi-huber-wilmington-nc-usa/ Tom Balbo - http://wisefoolpod.com/paper-artist-founder-artistic-director-of-the-morgan-conservatory-tom-balbo-cleveland-ohio-usa/ Gretchen Schermerhorn - http://wisefoolpod.com/artistic-director-at-pyramid-atlantic-art-center-gretchen-schermerhorn-hyattsville-md-usa/ Amy Jacobs - http://www.amyelizabethjacobs.com/ Do Ho Suh - https://www.lehmannmaupin.com/artists/do-ho-suh Nari Ward - https://www.nariwardstudio.com/ Brian Queen - https://handpapermaking.org/ Magnolia Paper - https://www.magnoliapaper.com/ Steve Kostell - https://www.uvm.edu/cals/cdae/profiles/steve-kostell Helen Hiebert - https://helenhiebertstudio.com   People that inspire her: Lina Puerta - https://www.linapuerta.net Tricia Wright - https://triciawright.com/dieu-donn-projects/1 Jarrod Beck - http://jarrodcharlesbeck.com/THE%20MOON.html   https://www.dieudonne.org http://tatianaginsberg.org