While sitting around a fire we discussed: - balance of fine art versus commercial arts - being in a small town - the pressure of being a fine artist - choosing to not be an artist in New York City - the choice to be a commercial artist - working with clients - never put anything you do not love in front fo a client - working through a rut - stock photography - technical skills are great but being able to express ideas is better - the London Symphony Orchestra new branding - https://www.superunion.com/work/london-symphony-orchestra/ - the benefits of being around other creative people Hosted by Matthew Dols http://www.matthewdols.com