Swans are distinct in their music and have a strong connection to their fanbase. Founder, singer, songwriter and multi-instrumentalist Michael Gira joins us to discuss the creative process, how he develops material, his songwriting process, the new LP 'Leaving Meaning' and much more. If you like records, just starting a collection or are an uber-nerd with a house-full of vinyl, this is the podcast for you. Nate Goyer is The Vinyl Guide and discusses all things music and record-related.