we talk with Gadi Evron of Cymmetria, which released Mazehunter, a targeted hack-back tool this week about going on offense and staying on the right side of the law. Also: Ryan Kazanciyan of Tanium is one of the talented hackers who help design Mr. Robot's super-realistic hacking scenes. We talk with him about bringing realistic hacks alive on the small screen. And: when Uncle Sam dishes the dirt on a state sponsored campaign against critical infrastructure, what are companies supposed to do with the information? Mark Durfresne of the firm Endgame and Itzik Kotler of the firm Safebreach give us their thoughts.