The Leadership Trap

The Leadership Trap


Siobhan McHale – Change Leader and author of The Hive Mind at Work: Harnessing the Power of Group Intelligence to Create Meaningful and Lasting Change

May 04, 2025

Episode 27: We sit down with Siobhan McHale, change leader and author of The Hive Mind at Work: Harnessing the Power of Group Intelligence to Create Meaningful and Lasting Change and discuss the blinds spots that can cause leaders to fall into their own leadership traps.

Siobhan McHale, author of the newly released book,  The Hive Mind at Work: Harnessing the Power of Group Intelligence to Create Meaningful and Lasting Change , has worked across four continents, helping thousands of leaders to create more agile and productive workplaces.

She also has been on the “inside” as the executive in charge of culture change in a series of large, multinational organizations. One of these inside jobs was a radical seven-year change initiative at Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Limited (ANZ) Bank that transformed it from the lowest-performing bank in the country into one of the highest-performing and most admired banks in the world. Professor John Kotter used her work with ANZ as a Harvard Business School case study designed to teach MBA students about managing change.

Growing up on a farm in Finea, a small village in southern Ireland, McHale watched the bees as they swarmed in the orchard of her family’s farm. This fascination with bees led her to investigate the intricacies of human ecosystems and she would go on to spend three decades studying groups in the workplace. This experience taught her about the power of harnessing the Hive Mind and the group intelligence needed to create meaningful and lasting change.

Podcast Hosts: David Hughen and Dr. Kris Potrafka