The History of the Americans

The History of the Americans


The Dissenters: Roger Williams Part 1

March 05, 2023


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In this episode we recount Roger Williams’ first few years in Massachusetts, following his refusal of the post of “teacher” at the church in Boston on the ground that it was insufficiently “separated.” In the years until 1624, Williams would begin to develop his idea that church and state must be separate. With the goal of saving Indian souls, he also deepened his understanding of the local tribes and Algonquian language and culture. He would live in Salem, then Plymouth, and back to Salem, but he spent most of his time abroad in the land, paddling his canoe from one Indian village to another. Also during these years, religious zeal in both Massachusetts and back in England, although in different form, would become even more extreme. Zealotry, it would turn out, was not all it was cracked up to be.


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Selected references for this episode


John M. Barry, Roger Williams and the Creation of the American Soul


Edmund Morgan, Roger Williams: The Church and State


Edmund S. Morgan, The Puritan Dilemma: The Story of John Winthrop