Recently in a television interview, former President Trump talked about his belief that God spared his life from an assassin’s bullet. As he went on to talk more about the spiritual world, he commented that good people go to heaven. But is this really what the Bible teaches? How about the fact that all of us are sinful and undeserving of heaven? On the other hand, will a saved person eventually find himself in an obedient relationship with God? Will people be made good before they enter heaven?

Bob is joined by Jim Berrier. Together they talk about the redemption of Christ and the Bible’s true path for heaven.

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