Shondaland Thursday! This week we discuss Jo's therapy journey and how that storyline is fighting against stigma, we're kinda for the Gemma/Richard thing, all the great sisters' stuff, Xavier's nonexisting motives, Tegan's heartbreak, Nate's obsession with Tegan,  and so much more.  Plus, listener feedback.

* S16 E05: Grey’s Anatomy (0:00 – 41:03)
* S06 E05: How To Get Away With Murder (41:04 – END)

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