Denise Ernst, Ph.D. join Glenn & Sebastian to discuss the importance of coding in MI research and teaching. Denise is a psychologist and MI trainer and consultant. She is part of the research team that developed the Motivational Interviewing Skill Code (MISC) and the Motivational Interviewing Treatment Integrity Coding system. (MITI). She is an adjunct professor at the Portland State School of Social Work. Denise leads an international team of coders that provides MI coding for the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers, research and implementation efforts, and practitioner skill development.

Episode index:

00:00 – Opening and episode preview

04:23 – Denise’s early MI story

08:00 – Nurturing the development of MI 

12:30 – Why is coding important?

19:50 – The MITI: Treatment integrity and learning enrichment 

26:20 – Softening sustain talk

29:10 – What to start paying attention to as a new learner 

34:00 – What have we learned about MI because of the MITI?

39:50 – Coding with audio vs a transcript

43:00 – Voice intonation when using reflections

45:30 – Open vs closed questions and the importance of what a question is asking for 

49:10 – Simple and complex affirmations

58:30 – Denise’s retirement and passing the MITI on  

63:01 – End of episode

Contact information:

Website: www.deniseernst.com

MITI: https://casaa.unm.edu/download/miti4_2.pdf 

Book: https://www.apa.org/pubs/books/deliberate-practice-motivational-interviewing 

Meta-analysis mentioned in episode: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6310665/ 

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