Ep 52 – MI in Primary Care

Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast

Ep 52 – MI in Primary Care – Part 2

January 31, 2022

MI in Primary Care – Part 2

Glenn and Seb welcomed Mats Hogmark to discuss MI in Primary Care. Mats is a 47 year old Swedish physician who specializes in family medicine. He works in a small primary health care center in the countryside close to the city of Falun.

Mats has been an MI practitioner since 2006 and a trainer since 2007 and became a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) in 2012. As part of the Program Planning Committee he worked on the organising team for the MINT Forums in Montreal, Dublin and New Orleans 2016-2018. Mats also leads trainings for resident doctors in person-centered communication skills.

00:00 – Introduction and episode preview

04:34 – Mats’ intro and early MI story

14:00 – The physician as an “assistant” and sitting on one’s hands

20:30 – Becoming a better listener through reflections

28:10 – Coming alongside the patient

31:30 – How MI can save time

34:20 – Mats’ MI model: The patient, doctor, and mutual roles exploring Ideas, Concerns, and Expectations

38:45 – Role play with Mats and Glenn

58:30 – Role play debrief – Attending to the physical AND emotional needs of the patient

1:17:45 – Mats’ work on compassion and relational competence

1:25:09 – End of episode

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