My conversation with author, Cindy S. Lee involves topics of great importance and interest to me. Cindy is thoughtful and spacious and one of just a few contemporary authors I cite in my new book on topics of spiritual formation.We discuss themes of her book: Contemplative Witnessing: BIPOC Centered Spiritual Direction Find it here (amazon affiliate link): https://amzn.to/4kyFPqb Some of what we cover:Avoiding the loss of the sacred self.Embodied spiritual practicesSpaciousness as a presence we carryThe power of silence in community and what comes after that. Watch the unedited conversation on Youtube here