Are you tired of investing in coaching programs—only to see little return? What if great outcomes aren’t just about the coach or the client, but both stepping up?

In this episode, I sit down with business coaches Angelica Pompy and Jamie Fisher, to explore how educators and their clients can share responsibility—and ultimately co-create success.

Angelica and Jamie are both actively investing in their own business education, while pouring into others—plus they’re even members of The Educator’s Lounge!

Coaching Works When You Both Show Up

Coaching isn’t a solo effort. Success depends on both parties stepping into ownership. As Jamie put it so clearly: the coach lays out the roadmap, but the client still has to drive the car. Without effort, commitment, and active participation from the client, no amount of brilliance from the coach will create results.

Angelica echoed this idea by reminding us of a simple truth we often forget: “You can take a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink.” Before investing in any new coaching or course experience, you have to check in with yourself—Do I have the bandwidth to follow through?—because anything less is wasted money and energy.

It’s Not Always the Coach—or the Client

What happens when an experience doesn’t meet your expectations? It’s tempting to blame one party—but most often, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Sometimes, the coach wasn’t a good fit for your current stage. Other times, you didn’t come into the engagement with clarity about your needs.

Angelica shared an experience when she realized she had outgrown the level of support she had signed up for. It wasn’t that the coach lacked value—it just wasn’t the right fit for her growth at that time. Instead of placing blame, she used the experience to recalibrate and decide what she truly needed: not another coach, but more peer-to-peer support.

Jamie shared a different but equally powerful experience. She found herself in a program that wasn’t resonating with her learning style. Rather than ghosting or grumbling, she reached out and communicated openly. Her coach responded with empathy and agility, adjusting the program’s delivery to better meet Jamie’s needs. That single conversation not only saved the experience—it made it more impactful.

Accountability Isn’t Just for the Student

As coaches, we often talk about accountability in terms of what students should do. But true accountability goes both ways. It includes asking hard questions, checking in when someone goes quiet, and being willing to shift the structure or delivery of a program when needed.

Angelica uses tools like Voxer to maintain real-time dialogue with clients, helping them reflect on roadblocks and identify what support would serve them best. Jamie integrates Trello boards to make goals visually front-and-center throughout their work together. It’s all about keeping the vision alive—and making it easier to reconnect when things go off track.

Feedback, Flexibility, and Fit

We can’t overstate the importance of honest feedback—and creating space for it. As coaches, asking “What’s missing?” or “Is this still working for you?” can open the door to meaningful shifts. As clients, saying “I’m not sure this is the support I need right now” can unlock growth on both sides.

The secret sauce isn’t perfection. It’s flexibility. Coaching that evolves, content that adapts, and educators who listen—that’s what creates the magic. Angelica says it best: “You might not get every single dollar back from the program, but if the coach shows up with transparency and support, it’s worth it.”

Mindset Over Mechanics

One thing that stood out most from our conversation was how much mindset impacts success in education. When clients approach a program expecting it to fail—because of past disappointment or misaligned investments—they unconsciously create resistance. On the flip side, when they arrive with self-awareness, a willingness to communicate, and the courage to ask for what they need, they become active participants in their own transformation.

That’s where real growth happens.

Connect with Angelica

angelicapompy.com

instagram.com/angelicapompy

Connect with Jamie

jamiefishercollective.com

instagram.com/jamiefishercollective

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