Watch this podcast as recorded live on Youtube in two parts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QeDasomHos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52D7QoyyUm0

The BTWN "other" youtube channel Tim mentioned here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydxhPjw99qg&t=2s

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