Subway maps land in the hot seat in this episode as Eddie Jabbour, the creator the Kickmap, joins me for a wide-ranging conversation on all things design. Jabbour and I discuss the elements of subway map design, what the MTA's current map gets right and what it gets wrong, which international city is the Holy Grail for designers looking to improve underground wayfinding, and of course, the Kickmap itself, his popular dynamic subway map.