Fred Nicole's name is synonymous with hard bouldering. The dude is legend, responsible for establishing the world's first V14 and first V15, always while bringing an artistic, quiet approach that has defined the soul of bouldering for over four decades. Today Fred works as a shoe designer for So Ill, and continues to explore the forests of his native Switzerland—among other areas around the world—for new boulders that capture his imagination.

But first, Chris shares some stories about an escape to what's arguably the best rock in the country, the New River Gorge. 

Our Final Bit is from none other than Margo Hayes, the first woman to climb 5.15. This song is called Jaded and it’s off her new album Notes to You.

Show Notes

Follow Fred Nicole on Instagram

Fred Nicole interview with UP Climbing

Dreamtime on Youtube

Follow Margo Hayes on Instagram

Listen to Notes to You wherever you get your music

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