Cindy is the President of the firefighter cancer foundation and in this podcast we meet up with her in Florida to hear about the latest research into fire fighter cancers.

In this first RiVR podcast episode we are joined in person by Simon Che de Boer who is the Chief Visionary Officer & Founder of realityvirtual.co We go right back to the start of his journey where the tragedy of his home burning down made him think ab