Episode 7 of the Resist + Renew podcast, where we interview D and Dot from The Classwork Project.
“Thinking that we can just, because we've read some Marx or wherever, that we can start acting in a non capitalist way all the time is silly”
- Dot
Show notes, links
You can find The Classwork Project online, plus specifically:

* the Lumpen journal
* their class workshops
* Dot's poetry
* D's books

Some of the academics and philosophers mentioned were: Stephanie Lawler; Nancy Fraser; Bordieu; Marx.

Transcript
Ali: This is Resist + Renew.

Kat: A UK-based podcast about social movements.

Sami: What we're fighting for, why, and how it all happens.

Ali: The hosts of the show are:

Kat: Me Kat,

Sami: Me, Sami,

Ali: and me, Ali,

Sami: I'm recording this now baby

Ali: Shit it's a podcast.

*Laughter*

Kat: Welcome to the Resist and Renew Podcast. Today we're joined by Dorothy Spencer and D Hunter from the Classwork project. It's really great to have you both.

Kat: Dorothy is an editor of the Lumpen journal and member of the class work project. She was born in London and has a background in community and mental health work. Her first book of poetry was published this year with Lumpen publishing titled “see what life is like”. And D is an ageing chav and anarchist inspired community worker. He is the author of two books “Chav solidarity” and “Tracksuits, traumas and class traitors”, auto ethnographic examination of poverty, trauma, community organising and social movements. He is a member of the Class Work Project workers Co Op. And what is too much football. Great to have you both, very welcome.

D: Thanks for having us.

Kat: So first question is what's the context that you're organising in? And why did you choose to focus on this?

D: So I said I take this one. Not that you gave us questions in advance. So I guess there's two contexts, it's probably worth talking about first. I think the bigger one first, which is, you know, the global class, global and national class systems, which we're all like, anyone who's listening to this exists within which, I guess this is a tricky thing. And once one of the parts where,
like, as a coop we’re still having conversations about, but we also have these conversations with the writers and the, you know, people who write for them, and they participate in that conversation. But I suppose it is like, what's the analysis of class? There's definitely like, some hard and fast dogma going around out there are people saying this is what a class analysis is In fact, I think we got a tweet response, not so long ago, when we were publicising it was do they use class analysis, as if it's a singular thing. But what we have is like different competing analysis, analyses And I guess that's part of the context we're looking at, like, we're thinking about class as purely this like relationship to production. Like you're working class, if you don't own the means of it, you're the owning class, if you do. That's one analysis, that's fine. It's useful in some contexts.