The Innerverse of Business & Life

The Innerverse of Business & Life


143 It Just Doesn’t Matter: Humor, Humanity & Transformation with Steve Chandler

June 05, 2025

What if most of what you worry about… just doesn’t matter? In this refreshingly real conversation, Barbara sits down with Steve Chandler, legendary coach, bestselling author, and mentor, to explore the freedom that comes when we stop taking ourselves (and our problems) so seriously.


Steve shares how hitting rock bottom led to a profound inner shift, and how the power of humor, humility, and letting go of old stories became the foundation for his work and life. Together, they dive into creativity, alignment, and what’s possible when we give ourselves permission to be a little less careful and a lot more human.


Expect laughter, candid stories, and practical wisdom you can use right now. Whether you’re navigating business, coaching, or simply longing for more lightness and realness in your life. 

If you’re ready to loosen the grip of overthinking and rediscover the creative spark that comes when you let yourself off the hook, this episode offers a fresh, playful invitation: Maybe freedom is found when you realize not every thought deserves your attention, and sometimes the most honest answer really is, “it just doesn’t matter.”


Show Notes



Show Links

Visit Steve’s Website

Learn more about Steve’s book The Power of Systems



Learn more about the podcast at barbarapatterson.com.