What if most of what you worry about… just doesn’t matter? In this refreshingly real conversation, Barbara sits down with Steve Chandler, legendary coach, bestselling author, and mentor, to explore the freedom that comes when we stop taking ourselves (and our problems) so seriously.

Steve shares how hitting rock bottom led to a profound inner shift, and how the power of humor, humility, and letting go of old stories became the foundation for his work and life. Together, they dive into creativity, alignment, and what’s possible when we give ourselves permission to be a little less careful and a lot more human.

Expect laughter, candid stories, and practical wisdom you can use right now. Whether you’re navigating business, coaching, or simply longing for more lightness and realness in your life. 

If you’re ready to loosen the grip of overthinking and rediscover the creative spark that comes when you let yourself off the hook, this episode offers a fresh, playful invitation: Maybe freedom is found when you realize not every thought deserves your attention, and sometimes the most honest answer really is, “it just doesn’t matter.”

• [00:00] – Introduction and Early Influences
• [02:14] – The Awakening: Realizing Internal Influence
• [06:00] – Spirituality and Its Role in Recovery
• [09:34] – The Shift from Reaction to Creation
• [15:52] – Creativity as a Response to Life’s Challenges
• [22:13] – The Power of Humor and Vulnerability
• [32:47] – Alignment and Flow in Creativity
• [35:46] – Pivoting in Business and Life
• [51:46] – The Power of Love and Awareness

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