In this episode of Up+Adam, Adam chats with retired FBI Special Agent Scott Payne, the undercover legend dubbed the “Hillbilly Donnie Brasco.” From goat‑blood rituals with neo‑Nazis in a Georgia forest to the basement strip‑search that almost blew his cover, Payne unpacks 25 years inside Outlaw biker gangs, opioid pipelines, and the accelerationist movement plotting a race war, while getting candid about juggling seven burner phones, staying married, and the Safeguard psych checks that finally pulled him back from the edge - all captured in his new memoir Code Name: Pale Horse.

Follow Scott Payne — @scottpaynebigcountry

Grab the Book — Amazon | Simon & Schuster

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