Pwned: The Information Security Podcast

Pwned: The Information Security Podcast


Episode 191 - Leaving 2023: Time for Defense in Breadth

January 10, 2024

The Pwned podcast leaps into 2024 with Justin Fimlaid and Jack Danahy talking about what they've were seeing at the end of 2023, some ideas on improving for 2024, and some new ideas around understanding more about predicting breach impact and exposure. The guys are looking at some new ideas like improving attack simulation, increasing visibility, and the potential application of new approaches like synthetic malware and attack campaigns. One of the results of a new Pwned term of art, based in a need to focus on "Defense in Breadth" over the tradition of "Defense in Depth of days gone by. All of this drives a conversation ranging from cyber insurance to the value of the next cybersecurity dollar spent.


It's a great way to wrap up 2023 with Pwned and jump into the hopeful potential for 2024.


Key Takeaways:


00:00 – Title sequence

00:24 – Introduction

01:35 – Recommendations for starting out 2024

02:15 – One small gap can lead to catastrophe

03:56 – New year, new approaches

05:00 – Prediction: Synthetic Testing

08:35 – Potential for better insurability and dollar spend/investment

11:23 – Jack’s JIE: Justin Inspired Epiphany: Defense and Breadth

13:18 – Impacts against the business during and after an attack

16:25 - Summary


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